The Immaculate Deception: A True Crime Podcast

It is shame, and it's opposite, pride and indifference which are at the core of this story. It highlights that the shame of infertility can be profoundly damaging, and the inflexible gender ideas around it, procreation and parenthood fence people in. It was Karbaat's pride and indifference to the mothers, fathers and children he was creating that was the catalyst for the whole thing.